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		<title>By: A.V. Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.V. Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freemasonry is indeed ancient; in my reading I have come across opinions that its start came from ancient Egypt, and even before, in Atlantis, if one were to believe that.  Today, one must simply wonder at its unseen influence; for example, the fact that the majority of our US presidents have been Masons is suspicious at the very least.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly, my husband attempted to join them years ago but was turned down.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also hesitate to believe that ALL their secrets are out in the open; of course most Masons are good people who strive to better their communities.  What goes on in the higher degrees, though, one can never know for sure.  Albert Pike, in his Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (pub. 1871), wrote, &quot;Masonry, like all the religions, all the mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretation of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it...&quot; (p. 104-5)  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lastly, I might inquire, what is this mention of Lucifer?  Albert Pike himself wrote, &quot;...The Masonic religion should be...maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine...the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer...God of Light and God of Good...&quot; (23rd Supreme Councils of the World, 1889.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freemasonry is indeed ancient; in my reading I have come across opinions that its start came from ancient Egypt, and even before, in Atlantis, if one were to believe that.  Today, one must simply wonder at its unseen influence; for example, the fact that the majority of our US presidents have been Masons is suspicious at the very least.  </p>
<p>Interestingly, my husband attempted to join them years ago but was turned down.</p>
<p>I also hesitate to believe that ALL their secrets are out in the open; of course most Masons are good people who strive to better their communities.  What goes on in the higher degrees, though, one can never know for sure.  Albert Pike, in his Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (pub. 1871), wrote, &#8220;Masonry, like all the religions, all the mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretation of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it&#8230;&#8221; (p. 104-5)  </p>
<p>Lastly, I might inquire, what is this mention of Lucifer?  Albert Pike himself wrote, &#8220;&#8230;The Masonic religion should be&#8230;maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine&#8230;the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer&#8230;God of Light and God of Good&#8230;&#8221; (23rd Supreme Councils of the World, 1889.</p>
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		<title>By: Masonic Traveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masonic Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it common to link Freemasonry to world domination, and that many have gone out of their way to proclaim this idea, but because someone belongs to a particular group, does that make a &quot;guilt by association&quot; case?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Freemasonry is a very old institution, well beyond the 1717 date many attribute to its foundation.  But in it&#039;s most pervasive form, it is a model of democracy in that it&#039;s purpose is for fraternity amongst it&#039;s membership, not domination and control.  Some of the groups you mention, the Illuminati, P2, and so on have all been groups who have infiltrated and tried to influence Freemasonry, but with no success.  Many will argue that Freemasonry&#039;s &quot;secretiveness&quot; is suspicious, but I tell you, Freemasonry is not a Secret Society, it is open and free to be joined by anyone so choosing.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It does, however, have secrets that it teaches, that in no way effect society at large.  Instead, it&#039;s secrets are widely displayed on the internet and when analyzed mean little to the uninitiated.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I do agree with you however in that everyone should do the research on their own, and come to their own conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it common to link Freemasonry to world domination, and that many have gone out of their way to proclaim this idea, but because someone belongs to a particular group, does that make a &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; case?  </p>
<p>Freemasonry is a very old institution, well beyond the 1717 date many attribute to its foundation.  But in it&#8217;s most pervasive form, it is a model of democracy in that it&#8217;s purpose is for fraternity amongst it&#8217;s membership, not domination and control.  Some of the groups you mention, the Illuminati, P2, and so on have all been groups who have infiltrated and tried to influence Freemasonry, but with no success.  Many will argue that Freemasonry&#8217;s &#8220;secretiveness&#8221; is suspicious, but I tell you, Freemasonry is not a Secret Society, it is open and free to be joined by anyone so choosing.  </p>
<p>It does, however, have secrets that it teaches, that in no way effect society at large.  Instead, it&#8217;s secrets are widely displayed on the internet and when analyzed mean little to the uninitiated.  </p>
<p>I do agree with you however in that everyone should do the research on their own, and come to their own conclusions.</p>
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